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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>ProDevTips - Latest Comments in Whining sucks more than Basecamp</title><link>http://prodevtips.disqus.com/</link><description>Mainly tutorials and tips relating to web development with PHP, Javascript, jQuery and Ruby</description><atom:link href="https://prodevtips.disqus.com/whining_sucks_more_than_basecamp/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:15:28 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: Whining sucks more than Basecamp</title><link>http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/#comment-2877386</link><description>&lt;p&gt;First, thanks for the free press!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Second note that the ads came to the site more than 1.5 years after launching the site.  Check out &lt;a href="http://archive.org" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="archive.org"&gt;archive.org&lt;/a&gt; if you don't believe me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;After paying for hosting for over a year I thought "what the heck, why not sell ads."  And it has proven very useful for those who have advertised as everyone of them has renewed several times.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;@Clint James: No, 37 Signals did not put up the site. I am a legitimately disgruntled ex-customer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;@Wimmmmm:  I wasn't "whining about choosing the wrong product", I have been complaining about Jason and 37 Signal's attitude towards customers, plain and simple.  If they are going to act as it they know better than everyone else they should expect to be called out for it as my site has done.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyway, back to the ads. One option I'm considering is to create a project management site that is not a bitch site and move the ads there and convert the bitch site back to a pure bitch site, or to just take it down. It's been up a while and made it's point for the most part.  I gave a much longer reply here:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/"&gt;http://www.prodevtips.com/2...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Once again, THANKS A BUNCH for making more people aware of &lt;a href="http://WhyBaseCampSux.org" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="WhyBaseCampSux.org"&gt;WhyBaseCampSux.org&lt;/a&gt;; because, as they say, all press is good press! '-)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Editor @ WhyBaseCampSux.org</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:15:28 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Whining sucks more than Basecamp</title><link>http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/#comment-1652044</link><description>&lt;p&gt;We're using BaseCamp as well for over a year now, and recently we've added UnFuddle to it to handle tickets &amp;amp; bug tracking.&lt;br&gt;I agree with you 100%: don't whine if you yourself took a wrong decision and had unaligned expectations. BaseCamp should remain simple, it's a core feature!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Wimmmmm</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:12:06 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Whining sucks more than Basecamp</title><link>http://www.prodevtips.com/2008/04/23/whining-sucks-more-than-basecamp/#comment-1494406</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I'm not a Basecamp customer either. I prefer &lt;a href="http://www.wrike.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.wrike.com"&gt;Wrike&lt;/a&gt; for a number of reasons, but that's not the point. I actually think that &lt;a href="http://whybasecampsux.org" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="whybasecampsux.org"&gt;whybasecampsux.org&lt;/a&gt; was created by 37signals themselves, so that their advocates would hate the whine site creators. As for the adds, why not make money charging your stupid competitors :)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Clint James</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:09:01 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>